Bestselling author Jennifer Scoullar joins Brainwaves host Flic Manning to talk about her new novel ‘Wild Horses’ — and the powerful role relationships with animals, with nature, and storytelling can play in supporting mental wellbeing.

In the second half, Brainwaves host Mark Eastwood interviews lived experience embassador for Blue Knot Foundation, Sue. They discuss Sue's lived journey of living with complex trauma, the tools that have worked for her in navigating living and relating with the condition, and her advocacy work. Blue Knot advocates for and provides support to people who have experience of complex trauma, and those who support them.