Take a slice of a delicious intellectual pie on today’s show, where Jacob and Sasja speak to curator Kin Francis and artist Ari Tampubolon on their exhibition ‘The Body is More Than This’, embracing nihilism & working in proximity to whiteness.

We also hear from PhD student Hao Zheng about her latest paper detailing the experiences of queer international students during COVID-19 lockdowns & finding community in Naarm.

Cover photo taken by Suzanne Balding.