Jacques and Jennifer talk about the dismal state of democracy in Australia, especially with little space between the two main parties on things that urgently need to change (even before the current downward spiral of the Coalition).

Cases in point are: lack of real action on climate change and environment, military and political/imperial entwinement with the US, our support for Israel's ongoing war on Gaza, and growing inequality embedded in our taxation, education and housing systems.

Certainly, real change is needed and the presenters begin a conversation about this, to be continued in the next program.

Omar El Akkad (2025) One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This Melbourne: Text Publishing

Tony Wright ‘Yes, Pauline Hanson is all smiles. But the question is – who will get the last laugh?’ Saturday Age 7th February

Amy Remeikis Make no mistake, the Liberals are already history – and Labor should be worried… The New Daily 4th February

Richard Dennis Left-right labels (which) make political commentary easy, and democracy hard The New Daily 10th February