Jennifer and Jacques talk about Robodebt, the past federal government's immoral and illegal scheme to reclaim phony debts from Centrelink recipients.

The Robodebt Royal Commission has just released its findings, and they are pretty scathing. There was no legal basis for the scheme, and Ministers and top bureaucrats were aware of this early on and actively covered it up and hid the truth. Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of innocent people suffered, with some even taking their own lives. Key Ministers and public servants were unmoved and acted with sociopathic disregard even trying to justify their actions (and inactions) as matters of regular governance.