On this week's show we are delighted to welcome Herb Patten, a gum leaf player extraordinaire who has been dedicated to the art since childhood when he started mimicking the sounds of the birds and wildlife around him. Herb grew up in East Gippsland near Orbost before going on to tuna fishing and spotting from the crow's nest. He's always had good eyes and this runs in the family. In this conversation, Herb takes us on a journey into his life of family and love, reminiscing on his late wife and the achievements they made such as establishing the Aboriginal Community Elders Services in Brunswick. Herb is a spritely 78-year-old and is looking forward to the future. It was a great privilege to have him as our guest this week. Thank-you, Herb.