We speak with Chris and Samah from Aotearoa Liberation League (ALL), a decolonial animal justice project that aims to end systematic oppression of all animals. Chris and Samah talk about how they met and their kaupapa (read about this here https://www.all.org.nz/kaupapa), using social media to maximise impact and reach people who are open to liberation messages, the dairy industry and decolonisation, and building connections that support social justice. 

 You can read more about ALL here https://www.all.org.nz/ and watch videos and read the great resources they share, and follow them on social media on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and Twitter. 

 Here's a short video of Chris and Samah talking about their kaupapa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWIZoXhYLWw

 And this is the video we discuss in the interview called "Is veganism just about animals?" We highly recommend listening to this one, it's about 17 minutes long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRpWq-KbX6E

 You can support ALL's work campaigning about the systemic issues animals are facing in Aotearoa by making a donation to their ko-fi here: https://www.all.org.nz/supportus

 The music we played on today's show:

 Raupatu by Alien Weaponry https://open.spotify.com/track/3hlbYDbcOlRwLDoLSAgNCs

 Waitī Waitā by Maisey Rika https://open.spotify.com/track/6IhsyBhsEGZ0txln2vyzkG

 The Promise (The Dolphin Song) by Olivia Newton-John https://open.spotify.com/track/08d3gUcRk5lvP6MJu91sDp

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