Lottie and Trev talked about antinatalism, pronatalism and reproductive justice, and overlaps with veganism and environmentalism.

 

 We argued that reproductive choice is paramount, through access to birth control and abortion, education and careers for girls and women and other measures to improve quality of life globally.

 

 We questioned the impact of depopulation as a solution to environmental crises and reducing human harm on other species. In any case, this is no replacement for fighting for changes here and now, like moving towards a global vegan food system.

 

Content warning: brief mention of suicide from 28:30-29:30. If you or someone you know is struggling contact Lifeline at 131114 or lifeline.org.au

 

 Media mentioned:

 - 'After the Spike : Population, Progress, and the Case for People' by Dean Spears and Michael Geruso https://afterthespike.com/

 - 'Veganarchism: Against all oppression, everywhere, all the time' by Nathan Poirier https://pmpress.org/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1851

 - 'If you're on the fence about having kids, don't do it' by Zoya Patel https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/if-you-re-on-the-fence-about-having-kids-don-t-do-it-20251201-p5njx5.html

 - Global human population is expected to peak at 10.4 billion in the 2080s: https://ourworldindata.org/population-growth

 - A vegan food system could cut global land use by three quarters: https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets

 - Depopulation is too small and too slow to meaningfully mitigate climate catastrophe: https://hannahritchie.substack.com/p/population-growth-decline-climate

 

 Previous FoS episodes on this topic:

 - 'Human Dogs & Cats / Human Population'

 - 'Veganarchism: Against All Oppression, Everywhere, All the Time with Nathan Poirier'

 - 'More veganarchism - part 2 with Nathan Poirier'

 

 Music:

 - Sally's Pigeons by Cyndi Lauper

 - Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology) by Marvin Gaye

 - King by Florence and the Machine

 

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