Marisa speaks with Latoya Rule about the Aboriginal death in custody of her brother, Wayne "Fella" Morrison, and the coronial inquest to date. Also on today's show Tessa Theocharous, Victorian criminal defence lawyer, talks about Mr. Kennedy, brother of Aboriginal woman Veronica Nelson, who died in custody in January. The interview focuses on Mr. Kennedy's wrongful arrest, and time in custody, and the systemic racism of the police. Genocidal policies and transgengerational trauma of Aboriginal people are also discussed, as it pertains to the criminal justice system and increased sweeping police powers, as they relate to Covid-19 and prisons.