Content Warning: this episode contains discussion of workplace fatalities.

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 Episode 4, Series 5 of Creatures of the Industry features Part 1 of an extended interview with Nick Moore, beginning his story with a youth uninterested in responsibility, following through a series of incidental job offers that built his skillset in various sectors of the industry and also in bringing him to organising.

 In this episode, he highlights the no-nonsense approach he took to jobs and particularly safety, finishing with discussions of his experience of the Snowy Mountain Scheme and the big changes happening in the 1980s - technological advancements and particularly subcontracting - that changed the landscape of work in this country significantly. 

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